Shane Salk - Voice actor in "Starfield," Co-creator of "Carcerem" podcast

[00:00:00] We're all living in a World Gone Geek. It's time to geek hard or go home. The podcast is real. Here's your host, Grounded Geek.

[00:00:30] We got to this point and why we've been missing for what six months now I think. But we're going to explain all that a little bit here just briefly.

[00:00:38] And then we're going to get into a really great guest that we have tonight, really excited to talk to this guy again. He's been on the show before.

[00:00:46] But he brand new game has come out recently. Everyone's excited about it. It's really huge. You time I are playing it. My son is addicted to it. He already finished it.

[00:00:56] So I am literally excited to have this guest here tonight to talk to us. But more than anything, I am extremely excited to be able to have Alia and you to back together again.

[00:01:09] We are here.

[00:01:11] Oh, how alive and well, Memorax, I guess. I don't know.

[00:01:16] The reading program. How's it going?

[00:01:19] Waving. Yes. Oh my gosh. It's so good to see your faces on here and I know we've had a couple of brief little talks, but this is the real thing.

[00:01:28] And I'm so excited for it, especially because like this is the best birthday present I could get is happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[00:01:37] Very excited, but not excited. Are you old enough to drink? Yeah.

[00:01:42] Like twice over I think.

[00:01:47] And then some, but yeah, no, I'm very, very grateful to have the show back just as a quick update for those who are interested.

[00:01:55] We were off the air for a while because my daughter Rachel is literally playing star field right now. She said in the chat.

[00:02:04] But yeah, I was my company had a reduction of workforce, 1000 people were laid off at one time.

[00:02:12] And I was number 997. No, I don't know which number I was, but it was in there somewhere.

[00:02:18] And now I know how long I have a full time job. So that was a lot to take in and obviously at the time, I just like the show is the last thing on my mind.

[00:02:28] I apologize for the audience for that. You were the last thing on my mind.

[00:02:33] I'm trying to find the job, but yeah, that will be real soon.

[00:02:38] Yeah, I still don't have a full time job. So if you know anybody who's looking for video and motion graphics editor or a podcast producer, whatever you want me to do, I can probably do it.

[00:02:47] I could use it. Yeah, right now I went back to teaching part time. So I am doing that and my students, I think know that we have a show so we might even see some of them pop in here and there.

[00:02:59] I'm teaching podcasting. So I actually started a new podcast with a little bit just to help teach them how to podcast. So that's kind of fun.

[00:03:08] So yeah, things have happened, but we're back. And I'm grateful to be here. So well, I'm glad that everything is the update.

[00:03:17] I'm glad that everything first off, I'm glad that it's your birthday. I'm glad you survived another trip around the sun as stressful as they can be as we all know.

[00:03:26] I'm glad that we're here through the technical difficulties and everything else. I'm glad that some things never change.

[00:03:32] Right. That was very much part for the course. And it was like with that six months hadn't even gone by.

[00:03:39] It's just like we picked up right off or right off from where we left off. And Jeff, I'm telling you right now, we are set.

[00:03:45] Alia to when Alia to we're all set because we can't lose. We can't lose. Look what I got from the blast from the past.

[00:03:53] Oh my God. So this is a movie memorabilia that I have wanted for a long time. I keep seeing that people have been able to find this.

[00:04:04] Where did you get this? So for those who are not able to see this because it is a podcast, which is an audio medium. But we are live here on Monday nights.

[00:04:15] We've moved to Monday nights instead of Sundays. But we are here live. So if you want to see what you ties holding up.

[00:04:23] You come to our live show every other Monday, but if you're listening on the webcast, this is the sports Almanac from 1950 to 2000.

[00:04:34] And then we have a great sports Almanac from one of the greatest trilogies of all time back to the future.

[00:04:39] Back to the future. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Now now I can go back to the beginning of the season and put money on the cubbies.

[00:04:47] I don't know if as this season is that going to be the case? I haven't been following much baseball this but I have no idea.

[00:04:53] We just have to go. We have to just have to go back between these years because I'll be winning. But then that's true. Yeah. And to that 2000.

[00:05:00] There are 23 years that aren't comfortable in this. That's true.

[00:05:04] Darn, we need to go get another one. How that just tells you how long ago back to the future was made, right? That's crazy.

[00:05:10] Right. That's just so my birthday didn't make me feel all that did. Thanks you time.

[00:05:15] Yeah, I've got some more. I've got some more. Hold on. There's a more of my pocket. Let me see what else.

[00:05:20] Duran Duran was just on tour. You know, hold it. That's right. Wow. Alia, how are you?

[00:05:26] Yeah, Alia are less seasoned. You just moved. I did see the boxes boxes. Yes, I did.

[00:05:37] Are you allowed to disclose your location or?

[00:05:43] Right. You didn't go anywhere like I am not and we can clean.

[00:06:17] I don't know. I could live in Ohio, but I could also live in West.

[00:06:23] It's obviously not witness protection because you're still Alia aka Alia, right?

[00:06:27] Which I feel like is, you know, very much like how James Bond is a superstar yet uses his name all the time.

[00:06:34] I feel like if you were in this section.

[00:06:37] What a crappy spot. Right?

[00:06:42] Well, so I wanted to welcome some of our viewers. We've got some viewers in the audience who what what we've got folks who were here when we interviewed the show Robbie star.

[00:06:53] Oh, hey, yeah, who I actually met originally at the Cleveland. I didn't meet him there.

[00:07:00] I saw him tweeting from there. I saw his tweet from the event. We were both at but we didn't see each other.

[00:07:06] So you so you tweeted him there? You didn't meet him there exactly.

[00:07:10] And that was at the Cleveland gaming classic last year. And now it's coming up.

[00:07:16] It's coming up. Yeah, I'm excited.

[00:07:19] It's dark.

[00:07:20] Look at you. 17 just pointed out this is the shirt from last year.

[00:07:23] The shirt for this year. They've released the design. It looks amazing.

[00:07:27] Good. But yeah, the Cleveland gaming classics coming up in a couple of weeks.

[00:07:30] The 22nd through the 24th and September. We will have a booth where booth 1100.

[00:07:35] So 100 will come by and say hello to us.

[00:07:38] What a good number. I will be helping out with some of the MC duties, which is kind of fun.

[00:07:44] So for a change.

[00:07:45] And see some of the more.

[00:07:46] Yeah.

[00:07:47] Some help they won the poor guy needs a break a few times during the day.

[00:07:51] Cory who does a lot of that in the past.

[00:07:54] I'm going to be helping him out with some of that so that it takes some of the load off.

[00:07:58] So that'll be fun.

[00:07:59] I can't wait Cleveland gaming classic lots of cool stuff is going to be there.

[00:08:03] They've got battle tech.

[00:08:05] The battle tech.

[00:08:06] I remember those from back in the back in the day.

[00:08:10] Back in the day.

[00:08:11] I did so way back let's turn the way back way back machine.

[00:08:15] It's getting our delorean and then press set set the date to say we'll say mid eighties.

[00:08:22] And where I experienced the battle tech pods was in Chicago at the Navy pier.

[00:08:28] And they're basically the huge sit in pods with it had three big monitors.

[00:08:35] And you know, he had a joystick and some pedals and buttons.

[00:08:39] And it was based on the game battle tech where you control giant robots.

[00:08:44] And who doesn't like controlling giant robots and shooting at each other in this other.

[00:08:49] I mean, it's like a control giant robots then be controlled by giant robots as the whole AI thing is now.

[00:08:56] That's true.

[00:08:57] But if it ever happens, I for one welcome our robot overlords.

[00:09:00] Because I know they're listening.

[00:09:03] But you know, I mean like the classic movie robot jocks or you know the Voltron or even the power rangers.

[00:09:12] You know, it was so much fun.

[00:09:14] It's like a simulator.

[00:09:15] You're like inside.

[00:09:16] It is.

[00:09:17] It is absolutely assimilated.

[00:09:18] You're the pilot of this giant robot and you're going on to the battlefield and fighting other people in their giant robots.

[00:09:25] And it's fully immersive.

[00:09:26] The door shuts and it's just totally dark with just the lights from the buttons and the consoles and their joystick and that's surround sound in a little.

[00:09:35] Yeah, and then it was a blast at CGC this year that they've got that.

[00:09:39] Yes, they've got Tim Misney.

[00:09:42] I will make you play the the.

[00:09:46] Oh, Luther looking lawyer that's famous around Northeast Ohio.

[00:09:51] That's right.

[00:09:54] That's right.

[00:09:55] I brought was terrifying.

[00:09:57] I know.

[00:09:58] Misney makes them pay.

[00:09:59] That's how he makes them pay just goes into the core of me.

[00:10:02] They're going to have it.

[00:10:03] I love the fact that he's shown up.

[00:10:05] He's going to and there's going to be an eyebrow contest.

[00:10:08] I heard about how amazing is that?

[00:10:10] I'm.

[00:10:11] I'm going to be an eyebrow.

[00:10:12] I just imagine that we are to get his eyebrow in admissible court because I probably.

[00:10:18] It's good.

[00:10:19] It's prejudicial.

[00:10:20] It automatically the jury automatically goes, oh, I agree with that.

[00:10:25] Yeah.

[00:10:26] So Tim and Leah.

[00:10:27] It's so high.

[00:10:28] Alia after seeing your eyebrow, I think you should enter the contest.

[00:10:31] That was very impressive.

[00:10:32] Look at that.

[00:10:33] Get it up there.

[00:10:34] I can't do it.

[00:10:35] I can't do it on the other side.

[00:10:38] Yeah, I can't do it.

[00:10:40] She's got the eyebrow.

[00:10:42] The people's eyebrow.

[00:10:43] She got the people's eyebrow.

[00:10:44] Yeah.

[00:10:45] Then maybe she should enter the brow contest.

[00:10:47] I think everybody should go to Cleveland Gaming Classic.

[00:10:49] It's pretty amazing, like I said, it is now the entire top floor basically of the IX Center.

[00:10:54] IX Center.

[00:10:55] It is three days.

[00:10:56] It's amazing.

[00:10:57] It is a massive event.

[00:10:58] Lots of free play.

[00:10:59] So much cool things and all free play.

[00:11:02] Yeah, once you once you pay to get in, you're not also then dumping quarters or getting

[00:11:07] quarters or tokens or whatever.

[00:11:09] Yeah.

[00:11:10] You're playing whatever you want.

[00:11:11] Pinball.

[00:11:12] There's old school console games and then the vendors.

[00:11:15] There's tons of if you're a collector, there's nothing better than that.

[00:11:18] And then there are indie developers.

[00:11:19] We've got one who is already about to sign up for a later episode wants to come on the show.

[00:11:26] So we're going to meet them at Cleveland Gaming Classic.

[00:11:30] So there's indie developers there.

[00:11:32] You can try out games that are not even in your steam wish list yet, but you're going to add them.

[00:11:36] That chance to try him.

[00:11:37] It's pretty amazing.

[00:11:38] Lots of fun.

[00:11:39] 88-bit Rob.

[00:11:40] Yeah, Rob.

[00:11:41] Yeah, Rob.

[00:11:42] He came on the show last year.

[00:11:44] He will be there again.

[00:11:45] It's an amazing time.

[00:11:46] And like I said, it's bigger than ever.

[00:11:48] Lots of stuff going on.

[00:11:49] Lots of special guests.

[00:11:50] You name it.

[00:11:51] We've got Sonia Blade and Johnny Kane from the original motor.

[00:11:59] No, the actual physical people.

[00:12:00] Yeah, the actual regional.

[00:12:01] They are going to be there.

[00:12:02] They came a couple of years ago.

[00:12:04] This will be their first time at the show.

[00:12:07] Yeah, great.

[00:12:08] If you're in the video games, you absolutely and you're anywhere in the four or five state quadrant around Ohio.

[00:12:13] If you're anywhere if you're within an eight hour drive.

[00:12:15] It's worth it.

[00:12:16] Yeah, you should come.

[00:12:18] It's absolutely a great time.

[00:12:20] The hotels are still available I believe.

[00:12:23] You can sleep on my couch.

[00:12:25] Whatever you need.

[00:12:26] No, I'm kidding.

[00:12:27] Don't do that.

[00:12:28] I'm sure you'll be able to do that.

[00:12:29] I'm going to be able to do that.

[00:12:30] I'm going to do that.

[00:12:31] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:32] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:33] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:34] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:36] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:37] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:38] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:39] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:40] I'm going to be able to do it.

[00:12:41] Whatever you need.

[00:12:42] No, I'm kidding.

[00:12:43] Don't do that.

[00:12:44] He does not live in Cleveland.

[00:12:45] Happy birthday, Jeff.

[00:12:46] Yeah.

[00:12:47] Also Jeff, your eyes are very,

[00:12:48] very blue.

[00:12:49] They noticed that.

[00:12:50] What's going on?

[00:12:51] It's the right.

[00:12:52] I can't get it right with this green screen and so it's too bright.

[00:12:54] I can't.

[00:12:55] He's cold.

[00:12:56] It's dark on the side.

[00:12:57] Not even just that.

[00:12:58] I see like whatever you're doing.

[00:12:59] And what he looks there.

[00:13:00] There.

[00:13:02] That was it.

[00:13:03] Whatever you're doing in the computer,

[00:13:05] it makes it look like you are not of this planet.

[00:13:10] Yeah.

[00:13:11] Well, with me.

[00:13:12] So have you guys seen Dune?

[00:13:14] Yeah.

[00:13:15] Are you a fremen or you?

[00:13:17] Yeah.

[00:13:18] And I've been using the spice or whatever.

[00:13:21] Oh, man.

[00:13:22] Do you control the spice?

[00:13:23] Because you know what they say about he who controls the spice.

[00:13:25] Control.

[00:13:26] What do they say?

[00:13:27] Or something like that?

[00:13:28] Yeah.

[00:13:29] The control of the universe.

[00:13:30] Yeah, that's correct.

[00:13:31] I'm actually doing them.

[00:13:32] All right.

[00:13:33] You get to avoid the sandworm yet again.

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[00:14:51] Well, once again, it's great to be back.

[00:14:54] I'm so glad that we're all here again, but I want to jump in and really get to our guest.

[00:14:59] As we said before, this is one of the biggest thanks Rachel.

[00:15:04] My daughter said, I'm not from this planet.

[00:15:06] Well, that would mean you know neither are you.

[00:15:09] That's genetically.

[00:15:11] I'm trying to think does the offspring of someone not from this planet make them not from this planet?

[00:15:17] Well, if they were born on this planet, I guess they're that they still have that alien DNA.

[00:15:24] Right.

[00:15:25] Which is one of the traits I chose for Starfield anyways.

[00:15:28] Right. Let's talk about that star field the biggest most and probably one of the most anticipated games of the year.

[00:15:34] I think although spider man two is coming out.

[00:15:37] Spider-Man two looks fantastic.

[00:15:38] There's a new Assassin's Creed.

[00:15:40] There's a new.

[00:15:41] Yes. Call of duty.

[00:15:42] I think it's a great way to wake.

[00:15:44] Well, it's right.

[00:15:45] Duty comes out over here.

[00:15:46] Nobody anticipates it anymore.

[00:15:47] This is modern world's coming.

[00:15:48] It just comes.

[00:15:49] Yeah, that's true.

[00:15:50] But anyway, this one is super anticipated.

[00:15:52] It's the first.

[00:15:53] It's the first brand new world to be released by Bethesda in like 20 years.

[00:16:00] I think right?

[00:16:01] So we skyrim were a wind and elder scrolls and all of that kind of stuff all the way up through oblivion.

[00:16:06] And then what's the last one Skyrim?

[00:16:09] Skyrim fallout.

[00:16:10] I think it's a new three, three, four, new Vegas 76, six, whatever it was.

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:16] Last week's the types of games all very, very popular but people were wondering are they ever going to like branch out do something new and they said yes.

[00:16:24] And start to get down just last week.

[00:16:27] My son like I said already finished it.

[00:16:30] That's so he finished he finished the main quest is now just doing like side quest now.

[00:16:34] Yeah. Now he's got the pre order.

[00:16:35] So he got it like a week ago.

[00:16:36] Yeah, extra time.

[00:16:37] Yeah, so he had it's extra time but still like that.

[00:16:40] He just jammed right through it and he's still playing it.

[00:16:42] He loves it.

[00:16:43] I love it too.

[00:16:44] It's a lot of fun.

[00:16:45] But we have a special guest on the show tonight who has been on the show before.

[00:16:48] He's the producer and one co creator writer voice actor.

[00:16:53] Carceram is the fantasy narrative podcast that he came on award winning last time.

[00:17:01] Yes.

[00:17:02] Award winning multiple award winning.

[00:17:04] And it's a great it's a great podcast.

[00:17:06] I'm interested to find out like what's next is there more part of the car serum coming.

[00:17:09] Is that kind of thing?

[00:17:10] But the big news is that he is a voice in the new star field and not just a voice.

[00:17:17] But one of the NPC companions that can join you.

[00:17:20] We're going to that's him right.

[00:17:23] Not the he looks a little bit different than that in real life, but that is the.

[00:17:28] I don't know.

[00:17:29] There's I see the resemblance and we're got but the man's the worst picture.

[00:17:34] Here he is.

[00:17:36] Perfect.

[00:17:39] Shane talk.

[00:17:40] Welcome to the show, my friend.

[00:17:41] You had you have seen that coming.

[00:17:43] I mean.

[00:17:44] Yeah.

[00:17:45] That was the only way.

[00:17:46] I was.

[00:17:47] I was.

[00:17:48] I was.

[00:17:49] I'm.

[00:17:50] I'm.

[00:17:51] Oh my gosh.

[00:17:52] So welcome back to the show.

[00:17:55] Man, it's been a while.

[00:17:56] Yeah.

[00:17:57] We were one of our favorite guests.

[00:18:00] And so we're going to do more jack at some point.

[00:18:03] I know we haven't done it in forever.

[00:18:05] We are getting night.

[00:18:06] We're going to bring it back.

[00:18:07] At some point that's the plan.

[00:18:09] But again, I couldn't even get into my own just even this podcast for a while.

[00:18:13] So yeah, no, I need to get a bed is very difficult.

[00:18:17] It can be.

[00:18:18] Yeah.

[00:18:19] Yeah.

[00:18:20] We're getting out of bed.

[00:18:21] Yeah.

[00:18:22] I'm a very tall bed.

[00:18:23] Oh, understood.

[00:18:25] He doesn't get out of it.

[00:18:26] He falls out of it.

[00:18:28] So you.

[00:18:29] Finally able to announce things.

[00:18:32] You can't only be able to announce that you could be.

[00:18:34] That you were a voice.

[00:18:35] Yeah, not only that, but I think I saw that also you guys recorded a lot of the other voices in your studio.

[00:18:42] Yeah.

[00:18:43] Yeah, we were one of the main recording studios that had all these actors come in and do their thing.

[00:18:50] We've been working on this.

[00:18:52] Like we've been working on this game since 20.

[00:18:55] I want to say 2020 is when the first time.

[00:18:59] And but this game has been in development and been worked on for like at least 15 years.

[00:19:05] If not like 20.

[00:19:06] Wow.

[00:19:07] Like I think they started making this game or writing this game before they had the technology to actually make this game.

[00:19:13] Wow.

[00:19:14] Is my understanding of it.

[00:19:16] That's not right.

[00:19:17] Yeah.

[00:19:18] So yeah, I got to do a lot of different stuff on this game, which is.

[00:19:23] I was that we were recording studio and recording engineer and I actually got a direct sum too.

[00:19:31] Nice.

[00:19:32] So how did that how did that come about?

[00:19:34] Did they, I mean, I know you do a lot of other audio.

[00:19:37] Like you'll just do a podcast and then sit around until something else comes up.

[00:19:41] No, that's you do a lot of audio production.

[00:19:43] But how did it come about that the game?

[00:19:46] Yeah, you do in there.

[00:19:48] The audio is the day job.

[00:19:49] Yeah, but I couldn't get out of bed.

[00:19:51] You know, how did this come about?

[00:19:54] Did they approach you guys?

[00:19:55] Was there a bidding process like how do you become part of something so huge like this?

[00:19:59] So for this.

[00:20:01] Actually it was it was interesting because it was during the pandemic that things started rolling with this company that we worked with.

[00:20:12] And they people were scrambling.

[00:20:17] A lot of people were scrambling and we got a call one day.

[00:20:22] One of the directors Tyler Rhodes who is is a really good friend of ours.

[00:20:27] And the one of the head directors of Starfield if you look at the credits, his name is the top director there.

[00:20:35] They were talking to him about a needing of studio.

[00:20:40] And he threw out our name and then we had some phone calls with them.

[00:20:43] And like, can you do this?

[00:20:45] This is because at the time it was during COVID so they needed actors.

[00:20:51] Most actors couldn't come into the studio.

[00:20:54] They were we were still working with SAG trying to figure out what the rules were with all the health stuff.

[00:21:00] So we had to go through a bunch of different protocols with greeting people and masks and.

[00:21:09] And keeping people separated and all this stuff.

[00:21:12] Then there were people that were remote so actors were remote from their homes, which is a lot more common now because of COVID.

[00:21:22] But at the time it was not nearly nearly what it is now or you know and it's getting back to where more people can come into the studio.

[00:21:33] But we had to figure out very quickly how to adapt to a place where directors couldn't come in clients couldn't come in people needed high quality audio.

[00:21:43] We needed to be able to record high quality audio.

[00:21:45] We needed to create a system that we could send to somebody's house if we needed to to have them record.

[00:21:53] So it was just a lot of things of a lot of people going hey can you do this and me going absolutely and hanging up the phone and going I have to figure out how to do that.

[00:22:03] Right.

[00:22:05] I've done that a few times.

[00:22:08] Yeah, I could do that.

[00:22:10] And I explained it to because I definitely made some people nervous who are in my sphere.

[00:22:15] And I was like can you can we actually do this and I was like no, no, and it took me a while to to realize that I needed to tell them going look my brain says yes we can absolutely do this.

[00:22:28] I just don't know how yet but I believe that we can like this is a possible thing.

[00:22:35] So my brain knew there was a solution before I knew what the solution was.

[00:22:40] So that's kind of how I answer those questions.

[00:22:44] I believe a lot of that was going on during the pandemic because I had the same thing happened we do a national well say we I don't work there anymore but when I did they

[00:22:55] do a national convention every year in like Nashville or Las Vegas or Europe to big thing.

[00:23:02] Yeah, well that's a different one but yeah, there this was like big big conference and they would have keynote speakers and all these things.

[00:23:09] And so we were going to do it remotely and they still wanted to have these keynote speakers but most of them would be recorded like that you know you can't get apparently Michael Phelps to come just wait in front of his webcam to do your keynote in the middle of the day on a Thursday during business hours.

[00:23:24] Do you know I'm saying so what else is you doing swimming I guess I know I swimming golf actually on your water cameras now.

[00:23:33] Yeah, yeah, I know that's not good.

[00:23:36] Go pros man alive, alive interview between alive live was recorded live kind of like we do here and I did the live switching and everything but we had to figure out how to

[00:23:44] do it how to connect these guys and they came to me and said can you do it and I'm like yeah and then I had to like suddenly you know figured out but yeah I worked out well but that was

[00:23:53] everybody was scrambling I think during the pandemic to find new ways to do things and then like you said a lot of it's like normal now like people.

[00:24:01] Yeah, a lot of this stuff's done remotely.

[00:24:04] Yeah, it was it was a really crazy crazy time and I mean it was one of those things where we were in the right place at the right time and we were prepared and we you know you deliver the high quality work and people are like great.

[00:24:17] Yeah, I'd like to say that my job as an actor or a studio owner or an engineer is to make everybody else's life easier.

[00:24:25] You know that's it that's it's that's why that's why you hire different people is just to make your life easier.

[00:24:32] Right. Well, it sounds like you did so tell us how your part came about like how did you become a character in the game after all this mean it's just like like anything else they you know you.

[00:24:45] So with video games they don't necessarily audition every single part there's I don't even know there's like over 300 people in this game and wow there's I'm sure somebody is counted all of the the characters

[00:25:01] and stuff and found it online but there are there's so many characters that you don't necessarily send out audition sides for every single character you don't have you know

[00:25:16] So I mean honestly from my point of view, I had audition for who knows what and I got a call one day from an agent and going my agent going hey you book discussion and I'm like great.

[00:25:31] And you know I happen to have known the code name and all that stuff so I knew what it was was sort of what was happening but I it wasn't like there was you know I didn't know it was going to happen until I got the call from my agent.

[00:25:45] Which and even then I didn't really know what I was coming into do.

[00:25:53] And they send you the script sometimes like but it'll be like a day before alone but you also have no idea how it fits into the game or at least I didn't I didn't know how it fit into the game.

[00:26:05] And so you kind of you get a script and it's literally just your lines.

[00:26:10] And you can kind of piece some things together sometimes but the directors come in and they go okay so this is sort of what's happening and then sometimes they have the line that comes before yours or other if there is like if it is like a cutscene or something like that or just those interactions you have with the player that have like you you pick what the player says and then I respond.

[00:26:33] They have those like lead ins so they kind of explain to you what's happening but funny enough as the director most of a lot of the information that you have is from context so the more the longer you work on the game the more context you have.

[00:26:51] But if you you're not given like a bunch of backstory on the character necessarily you're not given exactly what's happening in this very moment so you find out later that the the the directors are so good because a lot of times they're just making something up so that you can act.

[00:27:11] Oh okay and then you're like oh that's really what's happening but like oh I have no idea but you know this makes sense so.

[00:27:18] She had no idea yeah no idea what drip was until the game came out.

[00:27:22] I think they gave me some concept for some of that stuff so but I didn't know where you were going to find me.

[00:27:32] I didn't necessarily know those things sometimes it's really cool because you'll have one of the writers of the game on the on the call as well so the writer can fill in a lot of different things and oh man it was it was

[00:27:47] it was it was a blast and we just have a lot of fun doing it and yeah you're some of it's them giving you information some of you or you're just guessing.

[00:28:02] I was guessing guessing everything together so how many different lines do you think did you or maybe you know that you have to say like in total.

[00:28:14] I I would say there's a lot yeah less than have lots of conversations somewhere up there I think because I had a number of sessions it was at least

[00:28:27] I think I had at least two to three sessions and then there were you sometimes get called in for stuff but aspen was the writer I think I can say that.

[00:28:39] I don't know but she was on the call yeah she was on the call I will say her last name just in case.

[00:28:47] I'm sure you can google it somewhere but she's she is great and she was on the call so the fun thing about having the writers on the calls sometimes she was there she was in person for the last session which was amazing oh that's cool yeah so the fun thing is because sometimes you have to go can we do that line change do you think that can happen and my brain is broken.

[00:29:07] I have a very broken brain so I sometimes don't read the words that are there I read the words that I think are there.

[00:29:16] And so having the writer there is great because they're like yeah that's fine just that's fine that's fine that's great.

[00:29:24] And then all you know you can throw out jokes or or you know improv lines or something and most of the time I would throw something out that I was like this is just a joke and sometimes she would go oh yeah no send that send that that's funny

[00:29:39] and I'm like oh I was just screwing around I and so I got a I got some I got a message from her at one point she's like I'm playing the game until I find out if they kept this ad lib that you did or not.

[00:29:51] Oh that's fantastic.

[00:29:53] And it was because I was so involved in so many different things I knew all the directors they're really good friends of mine even some of them before the thing you know we we've been watching this game build for so long and we couldn't talk about it at all that it's I mean I'm not a huge gamer like I played games I played fall out for

[00:30:19] and I play a lot of like I play set loads of cattain on my phone like I can't wrap my head around stuff so the more and more it went on the more we kind of found out like I realized how big this thing was and it

[00:30:35] we went to a party the other day like on last Wednesday when it released and there were so many people like actors who came into record or actors I have met the directors were there people from the production companies were there it was

[00:30:52] it I got emotional which I was not expecting I was a little bit expecting like okay so it's another like you know it's a mixer I gotta go I got it you know but it was so

[00:31:03] it really was touching an emotional in some way just because we've been working on it for so long and so hard and I had contact with so many people that some I've never met in person

[00:31:17] because we did so many remote recordings and I have conversations in the game with people who I've never met like my character I guess I am the person who I bought an Xbox to play this game I didn't have one that could play the game

[00:31:33] and I got one for it and I didn't give you one they were very nice and I did get a code for the game.

[00:31:43] It was I am the guy who went around and found me and now I'm my own companion and hearing hearing my voice while playing the game is it's trippy it really is trippy it's it's it's affected me in a way that I wasn't necessarily expecting

[00:32:08] because again I've heard my voice I've heard my voice I've done things I've been on you know movies but this was just a different one I just never nothing that I've worked had works that was this big and I'd worked so hard on in so many different aspects of it had so many friends we I have more friends that have worked in this game then I have people that have worked on car syrup like well we didn't like we had a lot of actors at it but other than that I'm not sure if I can do it.

[00:32:37] There wasn't a lot of actors at it but other than that like there wasn't this was such a great team of people just trying to put this all together and I had nothing to do with like we had nothing to do with the you know programming or art designer any of that like you watch the credits of this game.

[00:32:56] It's insane it's I think if you're on YouTube it's like 44 minutes long of credits.

[00:33:02] Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These games these games nowadays are I would say bigger than movie productions. Yeah. Oh yeah. Just just with all the work that's taken into it it's and I'm going to I'm going to throw this out there for any like they're haters for everything and feel free to hate.

[00:33:21] I don't really don't care but anybody that's like oh I found a glitch in the gate all this book moved over there.

[00:33:28] Let me just tell you something like these people have invented physics right they it is it's and sometimes like you have a computer

[00:33:41] you have to stop and start sometimes for no reason you're like nothing like I can't like what cameras don't get detected or microphones even yeah.

[00:33:52] Sometimes there are literal things that are like well this is just an anomaly that happened for because the right electron flew across the room at that time like it's insane so yeah you go hate on yourself but these people did they built it's a thousand

[00:34:10] planets. What the right yeah it's not just like one this is like the whole galaxy so it's not like the super Mario brothers glitched on you like right I mean it's fun out their games are phenomenal anyway that just the depth of the story lines and how expansive and absolutely huge they've been and this is probably I mean this is obviously the biggest one they've I have no idea how they do it I had a

[00:34:39] T.I. 82 in high school and I couldn't get that thing program right I think it's fine some times to find some of the glitches yeah it's funny it's funny but it's it's like it's such at least for me like you

[00:34:54] tie you've been showing me stuff that you've discovered you've been sending those three texts I haven't experienced any of that like I don't know yeah so random like it's some it's

[00:35:04] working in some of it isn't I've had a couple of minor little things but even those have been kind of comical and yeah hasn't changed the game

[00:35:11] experience at all like even one Iota so I don't understand why agreed but it is point out I mean I still watch

[00:35:20] Oh yeah well it's just the people that are like we expect flawless and you're like no come on flawless you're just sorry yeah if

[00:35:31] you want flawless you're you're never going to get the game no but I feel like those are like the same people that I feel like those are the same

[00:35:40] people that are like they forget about halos I feel like halo had so many glitches or people were always talking every game has

[00:35:48] glitches every game every game is released at some point not because it's finished and perfect but because it's good enough

[00:35:56] there's no way yeah yeah there's just so much stuff it involves in games especially now I mean we're

[00:36:02] taught you know we're talking about Starfield which took 20 years to finally make it right yeah so I mean I just want

[00:36:10] to point out that this face not a glitch yeah no I wish I could say I did the mocap for it

[00:36:17] that's what they say you do it in the mocap for now just the voice okay so we got a question from the

[00:36:23] audience here how long did the project take would you kind of you get you guys the voice part

[00:36:30] I mean 20 I think you said right so we started I think they had they had started recording some

[00:36:36] of the voices even before that but the voice recording stuff alone took years let's see what year

[00:36:46] we in I think we ended we I know clue I think we ended we did our last session is either at the end

[00:36:55] of last year I think it was the end of last year maybe the beginning of this year but I think it

[00:37:00] was the end of last year well I can't remember time is a construct there we go it's that's not even

[00:37:08] true I have a whole thing about the invention of time but we'll get into that later it's all wibbly

[00:37:12] wobbly yeah it's all wibbly wobbly gooey gooey um slimy whimy yeah um but I think

[00:37:21] I think I believe that they started he started writing the game 15 20 years ago like it took

[00:37:33] that that long again I believe that when they started they knew that the technology didn't exist

[00:37:40] to make the game they were designing um so I mean you know and then the writers and then

[00:37:50] they kept they were writing scripts for like there are so many characters and somebody had

[00:37:55] to write all of those lines so for me as an as as the actor I probably recorded 10 hours I want to

[00:38:05] say 10 maybe a little bit more less give or take um there are actors in these games that I know

[00:38:12] recorded every four hours every day for a month um sure yeah like the main the the main characters

[00:38:21] exactly and yeah they had two thousand lines or more yeah uh five four thousand lines or more

[00:38:28] something like that something crazy um and you you might think oh four thousand lines that

[00:38:33] now it's not four thousand words no no it's like it's the right it's lines you know if you get through

[00:38:39] you know think about it you get through 60 lines a minute or 60 lines an hour that's pretty fast

[00:38:48] considering you're doing more than one take you're getting redirected you're doing at least two

[00:38:53] and then you're also going you know for any of the the actions of you're screaming you're literally

[00:38:58] like screaming across the room so it can take it's exhausting voiceover work for especially

[00:39:05] for these video games is a full body appearance and it's exhausting I was the voice in um one of

[00:39:11] the basketball games like 2k I think all right but I was one of the the crowd so you'll hear

[00:39:18] fan I was one of the fans you'll hear me yell it like junior you suck and yeah go junior like

[00:39:24] but you're literally screaming for an hour and a half to four hours you're literally screaming so it's

[00:39:33] it's it is it's dangerous and it's exhausting and it can take it it takes more time than you might

[00:39:41] think it would so what are you doing to like train your voice like if you're going to be screaming

[00:39:47] like what's the protocol I mean everybody's different I'm a I'm a I have a theater degree a degree

[00:39:54] in theater performance so I actually have like a link later training from back day so um which

[00:40:03] some people will say so what I agree the thing with it is the the the training that I got for

[00:40:10] theater doing trying to do you know need to do eight shows a week all that stuff is about voice

[00:40:15] placement singers have similar things um so for me I do a lot of my theater warm up where

[00:40:25] this is getting really geeky and stuff but you have five different

[00:40:29] you have this is this yeah you've got the different different resonators and

[00:40:33] the characters this head for yeah yeah so I warm up those and I make sure I can place my voice in a

[00:40:40] place for a long time where I don't hurt myself as much um the the great example is of like people

[00:40:50] like well how do you know if you're doing or able well or how you know you can't do that for everything

[00:40:55] um babies will cry for hours and days without losing their voice because they don't have the

[00:41:02] tensions and the blocks that we have some of them are emotional some are they're physical your

[00:41:07] uh so an adult couldn't necessarily even a teenager you know can't cry like a baby without

[00:41:17] losing their voice for that long so we train ourselves to place the voice and to use

[00:41:24] your natural voice is what she calls it um in a way that's undamaging um there are different techniques

[00:41:34] there are these vocal straws that people use to try to get their voice placed in the right place

[00:41:40] there are people to use sprays and stuff for me I basically try to do as much of my theater theatrical

[00:41:47] vocal warmups as possible um and that prevents me so I was the I performed a Disney cruise line and I

[00:41:55] did I would do three shows a day uh as as as a giant blue guy in Aladdin and I wouldn't but every

[00:42:06] day I would I would warm up yeah yeah that's amazing what's the musical or do you say yeah that's

[00:42:13] right that's awesome but I would warm up every single day because the day you don't warm up is the

[00:42:20] day it's yeah it's stretching before you just say so like any athlete it's stretching your muscles

[00:42:25] stretching making sure it's warmed up making sure your muscles in your body are remembering where

[00:42:30] there's how they're supposed to do it without hurting themselves that's interesting so uh you

[00:42:38] you've you've done video games we've talked about that you've done podcasting I know that you've

[00:42:43] also done some acting on screen as well get a question from the audience Catherine uh Jates says

[00:42:50] what is your favorite medium to act and you prefer to be on the screen oh god like being behind

[00:42:56] what do you prefer do you like being in jello or play or uh I'm willing to explore

[00:43:05] uh good answer good answer um so the question of this question oil always boils down to me as this

[00:43:13] says then if you had to give up everything but one medium what would that be because the right

[00:43:20] answer is they're all different and they're all like they all have their own unique thing but if

[00:43:24] I had to give up every single thing besides one medium it would probably be theater it's it's

[00:43:32] I miss theater a lot I haven't done it a while especially since pandemic I was living in New York

[00:43:37] and did some out there I performed with Disney Cruz um I performed uh I've performed across the

[00:43:44] country um doing theater um but coming out to LA to start uh recording studios to do car serum and

[00:43:55] then getting into the voice stuff um and then a pandemic hit I haven't done theater as much um uh

[00:44:00] but I would say that funny enough I think car serum and voice acting taps more into my theater

[00:44:07] training than many of the other mediums which is somehow very strange you would think that you know

[00:44:16] film and stuff but um the thing with theater is that it's different every time you can kind of

[00:44:22] you you really discover stuff and you have these rehearsals and things film is really cool because

[00:44:27] it's again it's just a different environment you're you're you're working with different different

[00:44:33] people and it's such it's a quicker turnaround than it's done um voices similar voices is crazy because

[00:44:41] you don't have the concept of everything that you're doing you make up so much stuff in your own head

[00:44:46] and then when you see it you're like oh that's not what I was picturing at all um but somebody else

[00:44:54] it's such a there is more collaboration with the voice acting some people would say

[00:45:01] or at least there's so many different people that have their hands of so many different things

[00:45:04] that you don't know until it's done um people keep coming up and going oh did that you know

[00:45:11] that thing that you saw in the game does that how you pictured it like new Atlantis or

[00:45:17] neon or are these for the hat or the hat I did not know that that was what I was gonna look like

[00:45:23] until somebody until out me and they sent me a video of it no way no and then a friend of mine

[00:45:29] sent me a video and I was like what is this video because I thought I was somebody else

[00:45:34] is not what I was picturing at all I will be honest that guy is a lot tougher than I was expected

[00:45:42] did they just recognize your voice yeah because they knew you're in it and they and they

[00:45:45] recognized it um it was one of the also one of the engineers that engineered my sessions so uh I

[00:45:53] think yeah I mean they either stumbled across it or he funny enough he sent me going you were the

[00:45:59] first person I talked to oh my god so um he couldn't even afford to hire me that was how slow

[00:46:10] like early in the game he was that's funny because uh I'm actually further in the game

[00:46:16] and I was before we even came on here I was telling my kids that I was gonna be talking with you

[00:46:21] and that you were this character and my son and we found you the other night like my son came down

[00:46:27] and I'm like that's the guy that's him right there and so we started the conversation and I'm like

[00:46:32] uh that's that's too much money man when I found out you shame on Monday and I don't have enough money

[00:46:41] to even find out what his character does see I started stealing game money just for anyone who

[00:46:46] thinks there's micro transactions no it's in game credits like I haven't stolen enough things

[00:46:52] I started taking cups and trades just my friends I needed more money I just started grabbing things

[00:46:58] to sell because I knew I had to hire me I knew it right I got to the point I'm like you know where would

[00:47:05] shame be at the bar so I want to I'm kidding I mean I was not wrong maybe a discount code or

[00:47:13] something for me that could go back and maybe I apparently you can talk me down I think

[00:47:19] I can try if you do so if if your persuasion is high enough yeah yeah yeah I

[00:47:25] might just try a persuasion check here to see if I can you should right yeah yeah yeah

[00:47:29] more than that we should price we didn't have time to get the graphics up to see if it

[00:47:34] worked no okay so yeah I talked you down to 13,000 you did you son of a right did yes and

[00:47:42] and or something for me and I and at 13,000 I hired you and I have no money now

[00:47:49] you know what I have I'm gonna have this you have that and I'm gonna save your life I am a very

[00:47:54] good shot sir you are very good sniper I'm trying to raise money to help these poor people

[00:48:00] who need a grab drive but without giving any spoilers as to why but I had I need like 25 grand

[00:48:06] oh I think I just then I come and see you you want 18 grand and I'm like so do I do I save

[00:48:12] these people yeah you can't you can't get the rest of the machine that's what you can't

[00:48:16] you're not gonna be able to get the other money if you don't have me watching your back

[00:48:20] I guess so I am one of those people that do not have an Xbox like filmy yeah but I don't

[00:48:29] have enough money in real life yeah well I mean it might have been a it might have been a

[00:48:34] a bird oh it might have been a birthday present because my birthday is on the 22nd

[00:48:38] hey there you go yeah that's the first day of the Cleveland gaming classic too

[00:48:44] I that's why I picked that day shoot you know what now I have to see if I have enough time

[00:48:50] the cosplayers uh Simeon Ben Koushi yeah I'm sure they'll all recognize you can you grow the facial

[00:48:57] hair I'm gonna have to paint that on yeah I already got that I can you know now I just need

[00:49:02] that hat and that and that cool vest in the jacket now my not shaving is lazy it's not lazy

[00:49:10] anymore it's cosy no no it's exactly it's it's it's it's character driven it's so for those who

[00:49:15] don't have an Xbox uh Starfield is a giant game in space with a thousand planets and it's

[00:49:26] space and Indiana Jones and all these things all together and my character is uh according to

[00:49:34] the internet is a potential recruitable crew member for space first the space and he I'm a weapons

[00:49:42] expert who just recently worked as a weapons tester yeah you were a give me that that was what

[00:49:49] you told me in the game yeah I'm not gonna tell you more things the game the game has like

[00:49:55] thousands of NPCs that you talk to uh Elliott throughout the whole game you can just talk this

[00:50:00] and it's just some of them are just random like you just talk say something to somebody is let

[00:50:04] people will be like I don't have time for you get out of my face then I'm just like dude like they

[00:50:09] literally got somebody to voice act this person telling me to get out that is in one twenty four a lot

[00:50:15] of them say that but what's fascinating to me about this game is you could talk to almost anybody

[00:50:20] and there are so many who will have a little conversation with yeah like that's a lot of additional

[00:50:28] uh contact that I have not seen in a lot of other games every like almost every person

[00:50:34] has has a couple of lines right yeah and Shane is one so there are several characters throughout the

[00:50:40] game Alia that you can actually ask to come with you and so they'll be your partner in some of

[00:50:45] these adventures they'll back you up they'll shoot you know when you get attacked they'll protect you

[00:50:50] and Shane's one of them so uh but he's he won't do it without uh without payment though

[00:50:56] no i'm not that nice a person are you giving a bone no but what come here hey jay yeah he's got

[00:51:02] a guest star gonna come in i came i actually came home for uh to do this interview instead of

[00:51:08] doing it the studio because come on up come on hey jay like you did because I wanted to be with

[00:51:16] uh and our anniversary is coming up in two days oh my gosh so what he should have done a wish I

[00:51:24] do too i know kind of dog is a j he is uh oh he's a purebred good boy

[00:51:32] he's a purebred good boy perfect that's awesome

[00:51:36] not that he's a rescue he's a bunch of different stuff and he's that's kind he's amazing

[00:51:43] what captain is a fan uh i will say one of the best things about having Shane uh i mean simian

[00:51:48] as a companion it is i get to hear him as i walk by him when when i'm in in the ship he goes hey captain

[00:51:56] how's my captain i captain and think that's right Shane who's captain yeah

[00:52:01] yeah

[00:52:06] and you know it's crazy so every time you hear a line like that they were probably six other

[00:52:12] versions of that and i had to do each one of those versions at least twice oh my gosh so

[00:52:19] you have to come up with a way because you know it's hey captain hi captain there's the captain

[00:52:25] like there's a bunch of these things and you always give it twice so you know there's another

[00:52:30] version out there where you know instead of going hey captain i was like a captain like there's all

[00:52:36] like they just pick the one they like but there's so many versions out there

[00:52:39] do you think now that's the robot vasco he actually will say your name if you pick one of like a

[00:52:45] thousand names or something that are yes they're database you don't know i'm screwed say the names

[00:52:51] me personally no there are i think there were two thousand names we recorded them at the studio

[00:52:56] there's two thousand names they picked them from they picked them from like the most popular names

[00:53:02] that people have put into games or whatever yeah let me tell you let me tell you i bet there's some

[00:53:10] yeah you can there are some that are just like come on right first name d's

[00:53:17] uh there are things like that there are mic mic hunt but mic little hunts

[00:53:25] i don't know about that one but you could be captain boobs that was pretty close for this show you

[00:53:31] talk come on now there are there are names on there that they will say that i believe or not okay

[00:53:37] for this show i believe it there's captain boobs there's captain boobies there's captain sexy

[00:53:43] for real yeah in the list yeah oh my gosh that's hilarious they're better be captain tight pants

[00:53:48] so i i didn't i don't know i really hope i'm not getting a travel for all of this yeah cogs were

[00:53:54] cogs were does the same thing fall out for and i think yes it's true where they got the list from

[00:53:59] for this one i heard um that it was like a lot of those names and perhaps even more now i will say you

[00:54:06] you can be captain's shame they will say shame nice Rachel what is your captain's name

[00:54:14] please tell me you didn't pick captain sexy because that'll want my daughter i don't want to know

[00:54:17] that my daughter is captain captain i i might your captain no captain mine is great there might be

[00:54:24] captain my captain captain crunch uh probably i think captain Kirk probably is one i don't know

[00:54:31] my my character is captain sexy shame um but unfortunately he just calls me captain shame

[00:54:40] oh i knew that they had sexy in there and i was hoping that but now that they would be able to put

[00:54:45] it together yeah he did so do you pick your name or do they pick it you type it in oh okay yeah

[00:54:51] yeah you can pick your own name if you type in something that's not in there then i guess

[00:54:54] there nothing i have nothing i'll say this so like name like Courtney which has a bunch of different

[00:55:01] spellings um if you spell your name too strange for like two different for them to know they won't

[00:55:11] say it Courtney with uh with the seven ph i and then that's the sand yeah yeah that's funny yeah

[00:55:21] you get flashbacks now apparently oh captain ray so i can now now i'm getting flashbacks so the

[00:55:25] ET ride at universal studios where they ask you for your name and ET would never say my name because

[00:55:30] he couldn't figure it out yeah that's one of the things so what's your name in the

[00:55:36] freaking ET no you're taught oh a Utah it's Utah yeah does it spell it it spelled Y U T A I

[00:55:44] should have spelled it U T A H because that probably would have that might have been a better chance

[00:55:49] so he doesn't say it the way you actually spelled it then no no that's that's unfortunate now look Shane

[00:55:56] I mean simian calls me captain that's that's all that's the best um so so let's talk briefly i know

[00:56:07] Alia's like i don't know anything about this game um and you go and it was pointed out that

[00:56:12] you can play it on pc not just xbox it is correct it's on pc it's on available on pc game pass too

[00:56:17] so and i just found out the other day if i if i fired up on my computer i can play it on there

[00:56:22] save it's cross show that's cool cross progression uh between my xbox and my pc so that's kind of

[00:56:30] cool so i can just pick up where i left off and play on a pc but um you have a mac right Alia yes but

[00:56:37] all right you know things are in the work when well get more money i have i have i have an ancient

[00:56:44] xbox one which starfield was not made for and i'm playing it via cloud gaming where there's an

[00:56:51] actual console or computer playing it remotely at microsoft hq that's correct and it just streams

[00:56:56] it to me and so i bet that they're it's still in beta but i bet that there's an app for the mac that

[00:57:02] will allow you to do that sort of thing because that's the whole point of it is being able to

[00:57:07] you know pick up your phone or a computer or something else and play an xbox game on that platform

[00:57:14] without needing an xbox i wonder if that's why you have so many of the glitches that i don't

[00:57:22] no i i i'm not sure i don't know uh weird glitch that when i shoot my computer blows up it's a very

[00:57:28] yeah i got this gun and it's just shane i mean simian yelling don't shoot don't shoot

[00:57:37] that's too funny um yeah so speaking from experience xbox to mac doesn't work the best that's

[00:57:43] the excuse me yeah sounds about right yeah well we'll uh you know what um yeah can i

[00:57:51] i could do xbox play anywhere on my iPad right correct if you want anything you say so that's

[00:57:58] right yeah so maybe at the classical year when you're there well you'll have we'll bring it up on

[00:58:02] now if you can like check it out you can go say how to shame okay you can pick him up

[00:58:09] better say hi to back i'm gonna say happy i will i'm pretty sure he will i'm a pretty friendly

[00:58:13] character i think pretty nice you have a choice i'm pretty nice but i'm like hey hey what's going on

[00:58:22] can pick him up at the bar earlier so do that amazing

[00:58:28] cast it it's it's just so much fun and you tell what are you so you said you might be at the point

[00:58:35] what i was just talking about with the grab drive for the um for this story actually uh yes i just

[00:58:42] got that mission and then i left yeah i said sorry guys i got better things to do i got to go

[00:58:49] between shane and them i got to i've got to go talk to my companion simian yeah one of the greatest

[00:58:54] things about it is that there's it's so expansive like you can literally there's different

[00:58:59] factions and there are different jobs you can have on every different planet and i literally

[00:59:05] have every job if someone offers me a job like i take it yes so i am a use i'm in the uc van guard

[00:59:13] i'm a freestar ranger your face star i'm even an admin assistant to a guy from daymost on uh

[00:59:19] in cidonia because i needed to be able to do that in order to get some information i am a corpus pie

[00:59:25] for uh you can industries i literally i have all the jobs and you're still broke and i'm still broke

[00:59:34] well i did just spend a lot of money overhauling my ship though because i wanted a cool ship

[00:59:40] but yeah to see i don't have enough money for shane the building building of the things like if you

[00:59:44] build your own dreams i i get so overwhelmed i'm just like just give me the guy i don't i don't

[00:59:49] understand the building i get very scared somebody asked me to have a job and i'm like i think

[00:59:55] this is a trick and i like run away like i am i just i don't trust the characters in the game like

[01:00:04] how stupid is that i'm just like oh no you're asking me to be in the

[01:00:08] no you're gonna kill me like i i get so nervous about all of it well some of the stuff they ask you

[01:00:14] there are people there are shady people asking you to do stuff so yeah yeah careful

[01:00:18] i actually got asked to for a mission i knew this guy was basically a drug dealer so i was kind of

[01:00:22] like i don't think i'm gonna i don't think i want to do your mission dude and so i went out and

[01:00:27] i was doing another mission and the waypoint came up and i went to this waypoint and i went

[01:00:32] in there and people started shooting at me so i started shooting and then i ran up the stairs

[01:00:36] and there was a guy there i assume was about to shoot at me too so i shot and killed him

[01:00:40] turns out that was the guy the drug dealer wanted me to kill and i could have talked to him

[01:00:47] and guy because Jacob like you killed him i'm like what i just there were

[01:00:52] the his friends down below were trying to kill me i thought he was gonna kill me so yeah now i'm

[01:00:56] also an assassin for a drug ring so nice you know and and a freestyle ring so i'm a cop

[01:01:02] and a drug dealer oh over inner conflict i just saw training day recently so i don't get it

[01:01:10] oh there you go yes go ahead oh yeah well i'm curious you know like in some games like the people

[01:01:16] just like move around or you said that you have to find shame right yeah like find out where he's

[01:01:23] exactly he's like is he never in the same place no he's always in the same place but you just

[01:01:28] we didn't know where that was until we stumbled across him or somebody i actually saw somebody else

[01:01:34] mention where it was i think and then that's how i found them i saw that Shane's

[01:01:39] i think my name mentioned the name of the character and i then i just did i just did the old google

[01:01:43] food and i'm like oh he's right there there he is at the oh he's at the bar it's a price of

[01:01:48] price you know typecasting is a brand jello it is oh so apparently according to my daughter

[01:01:57] there's a character that looks like me in the game and she's asking i'd have not seen this i don't

[01:02:04] know if i want to but yeah you'll have to if somebody has a screenshot you'll have to send it

[01:02:10] i'll bring it up if you get it before the show's over here but interesting i'm trying to think who

[01:02:16] that would be yeah i'm not sure so it's not like star do in which the characters have paths and a lot

[01:02:23] follow a schedule based on the weather now now they're usually in the in the place where they're

[01:02:28] supposed to be until you get there and then they fall no it is Bethesda so it very much sort of

[01:02:34] mechanically feels a lot like their past games like skyrim or fallout which for me and i the familiarity

[01:02:41] as i love but then it's like a brand new experience yeah correct but it's like in space

[01:02:48] i i had a hard time with sky i played fallout for i had a hard time with skyrim because i get

[01:02:53] too anxious and everything and the the it was the like level up screens with the the planets

[01:03:01] with all this stuff yes i got so overwhelmed i i i'm the person that like

[01:03:07] i get so nervous about making a choice because i think it's gonna like ruin the whole game

[01:03:13] yeah that i get it i'm so stupid it's so stupid um but this one this one feels like a pretty

[01:03:21] cool mix between fallout and skyrim in terms of a lot of that stuff yeah yeah that's the same way

[01:03:27] i am so intimidated by skill trees and all the other stuff like i i'll i'll literally google like

[01:03:33] what's the best build for this type of person and then i just take all the things it says to take

[01:03:38] or i have air and come down and pay my heel to you i'm like i want to shoot good okay let's do

[01:03:45] this you know whatever it is to take it i don't uh i yeah oh that's the perfect where did you get

[01:03:51] look yeah now let's just try with one hundred percent that is a great way to put it thank you

[01:03:57] uh Catherine because i yeah i hate that part of it um i mean it does make cool things happen in the

[01:04:03] game but i just that's too much and in this one it's even harder apparently so i watch people on

[01:04:09] these clips flying around with their little jet packs i got a jet pack on i can't fly with it

[01:04:15] well yeah well because skill i was supposed to take at the very beginning and i'm like level 14

[01:04:20] and still can't fly because i don't know what to take and then if you delve and if you delve a little

[01:04:26] bit deeper there are different types of jet packs so you can get a basic jet pack but then they also

[01:04:32] have a power jet pack and other jet packs i'm the guy who texted a friend and said how do i punch

[01:04:39] i want to hit this guy with my gun i can't figure it out that's what i'm dealing with how am i supposed

[01:04:45] to find a jet pack that's right well the jet pack you get one from constellation like right away

[01:04:52] i thought it was a backpack yeah no it's a little boot pack or whatever i think i sold it yeah oh

[01:04:58] well then i had one that had four i had i got a different backpack that had like more green lights on

[01:05:06] it there we go yes well that's that's that's usually a good choice if it's got more green lights

[01:05:11] that's usually better when you select it and then you look at another one they're like oh this is

[01:05:15] green this is red i assume that means this one's works and oh right what is it i don't even know what

[01:05:21] some of these things mean uh what is it's like is i should pull up the game and just start asking you

[01:05:29] questions doesn't matter nothing i'm i'm an expert i'm an expert in this game oh my god who is that

[01:05:35] all right so this is who that's my guess thing looks like me and apparently i'm making

[01:05:40] print it basically the same face that Shane is picking it must be a common facial uh it's

[01:05:47] it duck lips yeah come on it's it's it's it's that's uh what is that magnum p steel

[01:05:54] because i'm losing to you this is it's uh you know they think looks like me

[01:05:59] terrified which one of your children thinks that looks like you well Rachel said that Aaron and Nathan

[01:06:06] and now i know why they didn't show me Rachel's like here look this looks like you Aaron and

[01:06:11] Nathan are like i don't want to i don't want to show this thing the funny thing is i don't know

[01:06:15] at first because the shadow behind your head i thought he had a mohawk yeah oh yeah yeah

[01:06:21] yeah yeah it's true yeah it was Nate Rachel said okay um i mean that is kind of my hairline there

[01:06:27] i mean i can see it here so i mean i guess the supposers i mean i find you about as

[01:06:33] intimidating as his face there you go take that as you will so there's my question then for both

[01:06:41] of you who have played it and alia this is one of the fun parts is you get to actually choose

[01:06:46] the face and how you look in the game oh right gender like all you can design yes

[01:06:52] correct character designer uh and anybody who's playing in in or playing yeah who's playing

[01:06:58] the game but is in the chat also i'm really curious there are people who make themselves

[01:07:04] and then there are people who make like such just some rant a new person of some sort that you know

[01:07:09] that they like do either of you or either of you guys like your own you try to duplicate your own

[01:07:14] face like what did you go with no i i'm stuck with my own face most of the time

[01:07:21] i guess right no yeah i i made this face no i actually um so i decided i was going to try

[01:07:31] to make it address elba that was what i was going for i wanted an oh nice elba character

[01:07:36] and then i named him roland after the gunslinger in the dark time oh she plays him in the movie

[01:07:42] versus in the movie correct nothing like the books and we'll get into that but

[01:07:46] wow i just like the idea of him as the so that's why i picked those two things he doesn't actually

[01:07:52] look like it yourself i tried but you know that's what it is i think i loosely based

[01:07:59] i mean i just picked a face that you know i didn't find too creepy because i figured i'd be seeing it

[01:08:05] quite a bit um i did change the hairstyle and then i gave myself a lot of facial hair because

[01:08:11] you know it's a game it's fantasy and you know i'm never going to have a lot of facial hair real life

[01:08:16] so why not okay um oh nice yes that's very nice a nice doctor from doctor who is a good

[01:08:22] them right oh that's funny uh oh wait i have a picture of my person here i think actually

[01:08:30] excellent did i do that

[01:08:36] see

[01:08:36] oh look at you

[01:08:40] oh what red head

[01:08:42] oh yeah

[01:08:44] you look great thank you i wanted to be somebody friendly

[01:08:49] there is that like fade up into very nice i mean it was like there are so many options for things

[01:08:56] that i kind of just went straight and i was like okay all right okay all right

[01:09:00] that's pretty nice

[01:09:01] just show what whatever felt right whatever felt whenever sparked joys i created someone i'd

[01:09:08] want to hang out with there you go

[01:09:11] daily ones

[01:09:15] yeah all right i don't know there are so many options you can like so much

[01:09:19] you could spend you could spend an entire first day in the game just in the character

[01:09:24] creator it's yeah yeah good times if you really wanted to

[01:09:28] so shame before we finish i have to ask what's up with car serum like is there going to be

[01:09:34] in a second season are you guys thinking about it yeah does anything going on yeah we've done

[01:09:39] a bunch of outlining for it we're i'm just honestly if all cards in the table i'm trying to

[01:09:45] get some funding it took so much to do the seat the first season with with not paying ourselves and

[01:09:58] and all that that that i'm also working with some some nonprofit organizations

[01:10:05] oh yeah ask anything

[01:10:09] working trying to trying to get that and then some other shows going

[01:10:14] it's a very interesting time and fiction podcasting right now

[01:10:17] um i mean it's always interesting it always goes up and down depending on

[01:10:21] you know big companies get really excited about it and they put a bunch of money into it

[01:10:24] and then they don't make their money back and so everybody calls it dead and then there's but

[01:10:30] it's it's and then people want it again so it's crazy so

[01:10:35] I yes my my plan would be to do a second season i love car serum and we have another

[01:10:42] a very dark newar show we want to do as well um so don't don't fear i will i am working on it

[01:10:50] i'm just i hope we're all still interested when it is able to happen

[01:10:58] yeah no i am i'm still interested i like so i like narrative podcasts almost more than

[01:11:04] a lot of the other ones like especially since uh you know i listen to podcasts like

[01:11:11] obsessively up to the pandemic and then during the pandemic everyone started making podcasts

[01:11:18] including us and then i really kind of stopped listening you know why because i wasn't in my car

[01:11:23] anymore by Utah i don't want to so some of us don't care whether car serum comes

[01:11:29] you just want to see if i call him captain anymore

[01:11:35] now i um i i stopped listening more because i i listened a lot in my car and i had a 45 minute commute

[01:11:43] back and forth um there are 45 minutes home i could i could listen the entire episodes of like

[01:11:49] you know car serum on the way home or any of those welcome to night bails another one that i

[01:11:54] really love um but uh now that um once the pandemic happened i stopped listening and then i

[01:12:02] kind of got back into them solar is a really good one i don't know if you've had a chance to listen

[01:12:06] to that one we had them um yeah no they're good friends of ours they actually recorded it in our

[01:12:10] studio too that's right we talked about you i think yeah Jenny Curtis is amazing yes she was

[01:12:15] like cool um i'm so curious about what your studio looks like right come on over

[01:12:23] we have some pictures but we're actually in the middle of sort of fixing it up and stuff too

[01:12:29] it says pretty cool i like it it's nice um we i will say about car serum that we are at the very

[01:12:37] tail end of remastering the whole thing into doleby atmos so it gives it this entire look out

[01:12:43] yeah this entire 3d a much even more immersive feel and my my intention with it was to

[01:12:53] because there are movies and stuff that have doleby atmos and it's it is that you literally

[01:12:58] designed in a 3d environment but i wanted to a lot of them you know you still have the movie

[01:13:03] and so everything's up front i designed it a lot more like we're in like a planetarium

[01:13:07] in a lot of ways so there's a lot of stuff behind you it's not like you're watching a movie

[01:13:12] and so if the character turns around to look at somebody behind them they can still be behind you

[01:13:16] yeah yeah yeah it's it's uh it's it's gonna be the different experience and so we're going to

[01:13:22] launch that at some point so i will keep you guys updated on that we're not quite sure exactly

[01:13:27] what and where and how but uh it's the the remix is very cool that sounds great i mean

[01:13:33] i'm so excited i'll need it if there's going to be a second season because i'm one of those

[01:13:37] people now who watch we binge watch a show and like literally we watch it at three or four episodes

[01:13:43] and then you know the next day we're going to watch it again and i have to watch the recap because

[01:13:48] yeah it's like skip recap i'm like are you kidding me?

[01:13:53] unless i'm like just watch the episode you're gonna recap exactly tell me again where we left off

[01:13:58] and then my wife and i do the same thing every time and the very last scene of the recap the

[01:14:03] you know that the last sudden thing happens and we both go oh yeah we both like the same time

[01:14:10] we're just like oh that's right oh that's right that's what happened i've been watching

[01:14:15] uh always now only murders in the building and i've had to do that a couple of times

[01:14:18] oh such a fantastic show sometimes i'll watch there if it's been like two days or even three you

[01:14:22] know a little bit of time i'll watch the recap it'll be like yeah i i don't remember that i got

[01:14:27] a rewatch that episode it's a good show clearly i fell asleep or something because i do not remember

[01:14:33] that happening well then you know and then you've got shows like a rest of development where they do

[01:14:37] fake recaps right yeah next time i'm on the rest of the development yeah that never has nothing to

[01:14:44] do with no yeah oh my gosh well yeah definitely let us know when the remastered car serum comes out

[01:14:52] i will binge that again that was a really good uh a lot of fun and some great voice acting and you

[01:14:59] were talking about how physically demanding even voice acting can be it really can you add them

[01:15:03] actually sword fighting in the basically sword fighting swords and we had him carrying weights

[01:15:10] because swords are heavy yeah um i guess say what are the hardest things to do riding a horse

[01:15:17] like galloping on a horse while saying lines and i mean i don't know how you know i don't know if

[01:15:24] it's easier on an actual horse i would imagine not i would imagine it's not easier but

[01:15:31] you know you know you know it's bang two coconuts together right no like you're you're in the

[01:15:35] booth and you're you are you're not actually on a horse but you have to do these motions and

[01:15:39] you're out of breath and oh my god it was awful yeah i'm sure that there is a thesis of all the

[01:15:48] different methods sorry i just read the cliffhanger i am only kind of sorry

[01:16:01] yeah yeah and the just for the podcast listener's one of our audience members said that finale

[01:16:07] cliffhanger from carceram she almost threw the phone across the room yeah it's tough to end on a

[01:16:12] cliffhanger then have to wait years for the next one i'm at least hoping it was a cliffhanger that

[01:16:17] you're like i i understand what happened within the story and it wasn't like oh you just pulled

[01:16:22] the you know this was a very thought out cliffhanger let me just like it was it was valid it wasn't

[01:16:28] like yeah i'm hoping that people find it valid and go i have a good kind of anger and not a bad

[01:16:35] kind of anger yeah and i and i feel like as long as there's some resolution to what we started with

[01:16:42] yeah this season even though we're kind of this this was a problem i had that you guys seen spider

[01:16:46] man across the spiderverse the second one yeah so i knew there was going to be a third one everybody

[01:16:51] did right this definitely on each lady um but i hated the way that one ended on a cliffhanger i

[01:16:57] still i loved the cliffhanger but it bothered me because nothing was really like there was no arc

[01:17:02] that was resolved in this movie it was literally here's the right thing just

[01:17:05] just jump back to the ends come back for the rest of it that's what every almost every second

[01:17:10] movie is which is why the second movie is never usually my favorite movie because it's never a

[01:17:14] full movie in itself you know you have no even empire strikes back yeah even again we love the

[01:17:22] movie but empire strikes back it ends without it's really you don't have that shit you don't have

[01:17:29] that clue and it starts you have to have pretty much watched the first one to get the start of that

[01:17:35] movie right did you did you do you know who did it right though uh you taz little gray zalmanak

[01:17:43] sports book oh yeah the future two yeah back to the future two resolves and then and then

[01:17:50] pulls a twist on you yeah but you need the first movie you still need the first movie to

[01:17:55] to get into the second well yeah no i just mean like but but the ending absolutely resolved the

[01:18:01] second movie resolved and there's a twist uh and if you just turn off the TV like 30 seconds before

[01:18:07] the end of the movie yeah it's its own movie right that's what i like to see yeah i need a result i

[01:18:13] need an arc that was completed and now let's go oh but but but there's more i love that so don't

[01:18:19] be wrong across spider versus an amazing film but i i feel like it was just a big two-hour like uh

[01:18:26] first half of a movie you know what i mean like yeah like right i guess i guess there was a little bit

[01:18:31] of an arc for Gwen but it was just other than that it was it was like we jumped it's just yeah it

[01:18:36] wasn't it didn't feel like a complete i mean but to me and but you have this sort of expected like

[01:18:40] i mean i like lord of the rings the hobbit uh uh the matrix trilogy um like all of them sort of still

[01:18:47] do that the thing mm-hmm the only one i can think of the i guess back to the future but you

[01:18:54] guess again you need the first movie the only one that i can think of and i don't even know if you

[01:18:58] consider it a trilogy is toy story toy story too you can stand in its own agreed it

[01:19:04] it's after the best trilogy so and and we're gonna pretend like the fourth one now and this one

[01:19:09] that they're making that yeah that will happen not that they aren't entertaining that fourth one was

[01:19:13] sort of sort of entertaining but that that is a perfect trilogy the story i don't care when

[01:19:18] anybody says that at the best ending the best completion i've ever seen of a series like to take

[01:19:24] you full through like the life cycle of like a kid absolutely and his toys and then they they just

[01:19:31] went for the money grab it and still i'm going for the money grab that made me angry but i love toy

[01:19:36] story one two yeah you want me wrong this some good stuff right there why are you laughing at it

[01:19:42] because my friend is watching and he he texted me and said you know making a comment of my name

[01:19:51] it's and how can you also be known as what you were formerly known as printed it yeah right

[01:19:58] aka doesn't this necessarily mean past present or future it's just also known as also

[01:20:05] she's known and in other circles she's known as a Leah but print it's print the artist formerly

[01:20:12] known as the artist formerly known as print because he went back to prints yeah did he went back to

[01:20:16] prints yeah exactly so and actually i mean really yeah and actually it could be a Leah aka

[01:20:23] aliyah yeah or a series says or maybe or maybe maybe aka is your middle name and you're

[01:20:31] sensitive about it like this isn't it's true maybe maybe i'm making fun of your middle name

[01:20:38] because i get sick of people making fun of my first name well i will say that the uh my friend he

[01:20:45] is also an actor um and did you say that was just insane did i oh my other he's also an actor

[01:20:56] oh i don't know i just he just jumped in the bandwagon no we know he's phenomenal he's currently in

[01:21:03] Idaho doing the Idaho Shakespeare Fest but um that's awesome yeah yeah um but i know that he is

[01:21:10] interested in getting into voice acting at some point in time so if you have any advice while

[01:21:15] he is watching my advice is don't do it now because there are so many strikes and they're being

[01:21:24] just some mean yeah i mean i will say that the you know video games might be doing

[01:21:31] things with that if anybody's read anything about that because they're about to strike too from what

[01:21:37] yeah i mean we just it's it's it's rough because these studios are um and it's honestly when i say

[01:21:45] the studios it's not like there are very good people out there but like um

[01:21:53] what one of the things like for for motion capture actors like they're looking for safety

[01:21:57] requirements like things like that um they're you know people are like well you know

[01:22:04] they're looking to get paid more yeah but we're looking to get paid more because if we don't

[01:22:09] get the the raise in pay then we're actually getting the equivalent of what actors were making in like

[01:22:15] 2000 like it's it's the the these some of these companies are making a billion dollars on a game

[01:22:26] and they're saying they can't take part of that and just pay a little bit more to people who are

[01:22:32] trying to get their insurance or pay their rent you know it's weird it's it's just weird um

[01:22:40] but voice acting is just acting so get better at acting in general and then classes are great

[01:22:48] personally if you don't have a lot of experience i would not say if you can take you can take

[01:22:54] if you're able to take class in person i think that's better uh mostly because

[01:23:01] you get used to being in a studio with a microphone in front of you

[01:23:05] um if you're not used to that it can be strange i've directed like a list be list talent who

[01:23:15] haven't had a lot of voice over experience in the audio drama world kind of thing and i'm like

[01:23:21] okay i need you to yell and they kind of fake yell and i'm like no i need you to really yell

[01:23:26] and scream and because the microphone is right here and you're in a tiny box depending

[01:23:32] uh people get in their head that like i'm not talking to the back of the room i'm not talking so

[01:23:40] so getting getting used to those things are is important um in terms of

[01:23:46] commercials pay better animations it's a lot of fun video games are getting bigger and bigger and bigger

[01:23:52] um so um my first thing i would say is like you know take a commercial class

[01:24:01] i mean um because again a lot of it's just getting used to talking out loud or reading

[01:24:09] at reading out loud getting better at voice acting reading out loud to yourself is helpful because

[01:24:15] it gets you reading out loud which is a lot of what voice acting is um but yeah um

[01:24:23] classes if you're in Los Angeles there's a really great voiceover community here

[01:24:28] that um

[01:24:32] that you know you can get within if you take the right classes or find the right people and i'm not

[01:24:37] talking like community like oh you got to get it and then that's how you get the jobs i'm just

[01:24:41] meaning like people are very nice the voice actor community is is very kind um and there's always

[01:24:47] people to take kind of help and and bring you along and and um but yeah the first thing the first

[01:24:56] thing first is work on your acting just theater acting film it like just work on your acting it's

[01:25:01] good acting voice acting is acting first and voice second interesting yeah good last question

[01:25:10] before we go we'll take from Catherine if you had to choose one would you rather be

[01:25:15] directing or acting why not both yeah if i had to give up one i would probably give up

[01:25:25] directing um and again i'm going back to like sort of a theater idea because um it's just

[01:25:36] it's a long-term experience and my one of my favorite things about acting is working with

[01:25:42] incredibly talented directors where you work together to kind of shape a role in like

[01:25:49] if you get to do Tennessee Williams or um Sam Shepherd or any of these things where you get to kind

[01:25:58] of work with another actor and then work for the director you know waiting for good Joe is such

[01:26:03] a bizarre show i would love to i've never been able to do that show but i would love to do it with

[01:26:08] a director who knew what they were doing it's a different emotional experience and i find it

[01:26:15] incredibly rewarding for me and um it it it it makes me it brings me so much joy and passion

[01:26:26] people ask me what i like better comedy or drama and i like to say comedy is so much fun when

[01:26:34] you're doing it and drama feels so good when you're done um that's how i feel about it and

[01:26:44] it's just and i always find myself so much so happy when i feel myself

[01:26:53] improving or finding these aha moments are tapping into some kind of emotional core

[01:26:58] for a character um there are people that find that same joy bringing it out of other people

[01:27:06] and and fight and watching people and helping guide and i find a huge amount of joy in that but

[01:27:12] if i had to give up one i think um

[01:27:16] um doing doing a show for doing a play for you know two three four months or two or

[01:27:24] ing or something i think you discover so many things that and you make so many connections with

[01:27:30] the cast and things that i wouldn't get as uh i wouldn't get the same joy as a director but i

[01:27:37] love both

[01:27:39] um um

[01:27:39] well

[01:27:41] good answer

[01:27:41] okay so thank you so much for being with us here again and agreeing to do this

[01:27:46] absolutely uh we'll probably gonna wrap up here because i have to go play starfield and do

[01:27:51] some more jobs so that i can afford to actually have you join my crew but um uh we appreciate these

[01:27:57] insights i think it's it's really neat to see kind of how everything happens behind the scenes

[01:28:01] in these games i know are massive productions and we got a little peek behind the curtain we

[01:28:06] appreciate it thank you so much for being here

[01:28:08] yeah absolutely anytime and when we do get our game night going back i will definitely give you a call

[01:28:14] i am so in all right man thanks alia utah thank you uh as always for being here and helping to kind

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